Lancashire Pork Pie Appreciation Society

Appreciating the best best pork pies Lancashire has to offer

Next LPPAS Meeting – Monday 5th June

The pies have now been ordered for the next meeting of the LPPAS which will commence at 9:30PM on Monday 5th June at The Black Bull. Local pride was at stake last  time with top class pies from Bolton & Bury going head-to-head. Bolton came out on top last time , but we will be casting our net wider again for the June meeting in our search for the best pork pie in Lancashire. All are welcome from Bolton, Bury and beyond.

June promises to be an excellent month for pie lovers with this meeting followed by the Pie Off on the 24th. The tap room was overflowing for our last meeting  so, if you are planning to sample the pies, please let Steve know or drop us an email at


Beer, Music & Pies! The Great Lancashire Pork Pie Bake Off

We are excited to provide more details for the Great Lancashire Pork Pie Bake Off. Firstly, we will shortly be announcing details of a new beer that is being brewed specially for the night. A barrel of the beer will be donated by the brewer free of charge. As with all proceeds from the Pie Off all proceeds will be going to Macmillan Cancer Support. Watch this space for further details soon. Along with the beer, musical entertainment will be provided on the night too. As certain members of the LPPAS aren’t noted for their temperance the decision has been made to bring the Pie Off forward by 24 hours to the evening of Saturday 24th June.


Entries Now Open for ‘The Great Lancashire Pork Pie Bake Off’

Entries are now being accepted for the Great Lancashire Pork Pie Bake Off’. Our search to find the best home made pork pie in Lancashire. The entry fee for competitors will be £5.00 (payable on the day)  with all proceeds going to Macmillan Cancer Support. Places are limited, so to enter your pie in the Great Lancashire Pork Pie Bake Off either complete an entry form in person at The Black Bull, or drop us an email at with your name and contact details.

Date: 8:00pm Saturday 24th June.
Venue: The Black Bull, Edgworth, Bolton, BL7 0AF.




Pie Rating – Trotters (Bury)

Trotter’s Pork Pie wins the award for the most elegant looking pie we have sampled so far. The pastry pig on the lid is a great touch that gives the pie a distinctive look and feel. The name ‘Trotter’s’ also met with the approval of the LPPAS members.

A dozen standard pies were provided for sampling. The pie performed well, achieving ‘LPPAS Recommended Status’. On another night it might have scored higher still, but struggled on the night in comparison to the LPPAS Highly Recommended, and firm favourite, Fraser’s Pie. It should also be mentioned that as Trotter’s is closed on Monday the pies had been in storage since Saturday. Two members that have sampled these pies fresh though that the pastry had lost some of its ‘crunch’ over the weekend. At the end of the tasting no-one was disappointed.

Here are the marks from the 12 tasters for the pie:


TrottersSo, what are the characteristics of this excellently presented pie? Firstly, the size should be commented on. It is one of the smaller pies that we have sampled. For some this would be ideal, but on the night the majority of tasters would have preferred a slightly larger version. Members were split on their overall description. ‘A cute looking, nice pie’ was one comment, supported by others that found the pie ‘enjoyable’ and ‘very good and tasty’. Other members were a little harsher – describing the pie as ‘average’. A comment that in part is testament to the quality of the pies that we have sampled so far this year.

The pork itself was the strongest feature of the pie. With an average mark of 69% this just missed the Highly Recommended level. ‘Firm’, ‘good texture and flavour’ and ‘well-seasoned’ were typical comments here with only one taster awarding a mark below 65%. In fact there were several positive comments about the seasoning – a factor that even in the top scoring pies is often the subject of negative comment.

The pastry achieved a mark of 60%. Here it was felt that the pastry ‘lacked crispness’ and some felt it was ‘soggy’. There was no doubt that the pastry didn’t score as well as expected. How much this was due to its period in storage is open to question – but there’s no doubt it would have been fairer to sample the pie on the day of purchase.

Finally, to the jelly. Here there were some negative comments but these related to quantity rather than quality. In smaller, well filled, pies such as this one there is little room for jelly. Those that did comment on the flavour remarked that the jelly was ‘excellent’ and ‘nice and tasty’.

Overall, the Trotter’s Pork Pie makes the grade as an LPPAS Recommended Pie. With its appearance and the quality of the pork it is best described as an enjoyable pie. If you are in the area, why not call in to what is an excellent butchers for a sample?

86 Walshaw Road
Or use our Pie Finder for directions!


Pie Rating – Frasers (Bolton)

There was much anticipation as the members of LPPAS impatiently waited for the Fraser’s Pork Pies to be served. For many LPPAS members Fraser’s pork pies have been a long-standing favourite and those that had yet to taste them were expecting something special. Ideally tasting would be done ‘blind’ to remove any possible bias. Although, this wasn’t possible for such a well-known pie, the tasters gave their opinions in their usual professional manner.


A dozen standard pies were provided for the hungry crowd with the generous addition of 2 large pies to ensure that an elegant sufficiency was provided. At the end of the tasting no-one was disappointed.  The overall mark of 79% is testament to the quality of the pie, comfortably achieving the much coveted ‘LPPAS Highly Recommended’ status. Here are the marks of the 13 tasters for the pie:

Fraser’s Standard Pie Taster
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 Total
Overall Quality 80 75 72 80 80 85 85 80 80 80 80 75 75 79
Pastry 80 65 70 70 80 90 85 80 80 70 80 75 70 77
Pork 80 70 70 70 75 85 85 80 80 70 80 75 80 77
Jelly 80 65 70 65 70 85 90 80 60 80 75 60 73

So, what are the reason that this pie has such a reputation and is rated so highly? Firstly, the overall quality is considered. One member described the pie as having an ‘exquisite balance’ between the holy trinity of pastry, meat & jelly. Comments were also made on the ‘fulsome’ and ‘well-filled’ quality of the pie. The speed at which the pies were consumed spoke silently of the taste and texture of the pies.

Frasers3Next, each of the constituent parts are considered. Of the three, the jelly scored the lowest score, with a still excellent 73%. The jelly would have scored higher still were it not for another characteristic of the pie. Paradoxically the ‘fulsome’ quality of the pie meant that in some of the pies there was comparatively little jelly. Those pies in which there was room  were particularly well-jellied with one member opining that despite it being a ‘packed pie, it had jelly in all the right places.

The pastry and pork were both awarded excellent averages of 77%. The pastry was described as ‘nicely baked, good colour, with crispy pastry just to my taste’. ‘Thin and crispy’ describing well the elusive quality of top class pastry. The pork itself was a smooth and uniformly pink. The comments ‘nicely spiced with a great texture’ and ‘lean, tasty and moist’ captures the consensus well.

Finally, comment should be made on the large pies. Formal scoring is now only conducted on the standard pies. The large pie was extremely well received. If there was a scoring system for the larger pies, there is little doubt that this would be our top-rated pie in that category.

Overall, the Fraser’s Standard Pie is in the top 3 for all of our four categories.  If you haven’t already sample Fraser’s pies as a LPPAS Highly Recommended Pie we recommend you make the journey to sample them for yourselves.

Fraser’s Butchers
272 Rishton Lane

Or use our Pie Finder for directions!



Coming soon….. the Great Lancashire Pork Pie Bake Off

Announcing ‘The Great Lancashire Pork Pie Bake Off’. Our search to find the best home made pork pie in Lancashire. All proceeds to Macmillan Cancer Support. Date now confirmed: Sunday 25th June! Full details to follow.



Next LPPAS Meeting – Monday 24th April

The pies have now been ordered for the next meeting of the LPPAS will commence at 9:30PM on Monday 24th April at The Black Bull. Local pride will be at stake this time with top class pies from Bolton & Bury going head-to-head. All are welcome from Bolton, Bury and beyond.

The meeting has been brought forward by a week so that it doesn’t clash with the bank holiday. Lovers of quiche and spring rolls are likely to be disappointed as the pork pies will provisionally be from Urmston and Walshaw. This will be confirmed nearer the day.  The last two meetings have provided top class pies, so let’s hope we can keep the standard up again.

It promises to be another excellent night for pie lovers. The tap room was overflowing last time and so, if you are planning to sample the pies, please let Steve know or drop us an email at

A New Leader: Walmsley’s of Ramsbottom

LPPAS Event Report 3rd April 2017

As has been said before on these pages, the great Spanish author Cervantes claimed that ‘hunger is the best sauce’. Some 500 years after he first coined the phrase, events at The Black Bull conspired to reinforce Cervantes’ enduring wisdom. Inexplicably, there had been a breakdown in procurement from West Lancashire, which meant pork pies from just one supplier were to be sampled. Although alternatives such as quiche and spring rolls were offered, these were received as thin gruel by the pie hungry crowd. Fortunately though, the supplier from Ramsbottom, Walmsley’s Butchers, is clearly a monarch of his profession and the pies sampled were agreed by all to be top class.

Walmsleys2A full report of Walmsley’s Pork Pie will follow. But the headline is that it goes straight to the top of the charts, just overtaking Pitt’s of Earby for first place overall. Not only that, but the pie goes to the top of the pastry and pork charts too, missing out on first place in the jelly chart to Pitt’s masterly pie.

The results are shown below, for what one of our taster’s described as a ‘Ronaldo of the Pie world’:

Walmsley’s Standard Pie


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Total
Overall Quality 85 78 80 78 80 96 88 80 83
Pastry 90 76 75 85 70 90 85 75 81
Pork 85 70 70 83 80 92 90 85 82
Jelly 80 60 75 65 80 97 90 80 78


Walmsley’s butchers can be found at:

31 Bridge Street, Ramsbottom, Bury BL0 9AD

Walmsley’s Butchers Facebook Page

Use our Pie Finder for directions


LPPAS Pie Charts


Below are the current lists of our top five rated pork pies so far this year. At the end of the year we will award the Bird’s Pie Shop Memorial Trophy to the highest overall rated pie of the year. Prizes will also be awarded to the pies adjudged to have the best pastry, best pork and best jelly. The list is up to date on the 19th March 2017. There are some very high rated pies already, but there are plenty more to be tasted by the end of the year.

Best Overall Pork Pie


Best Pastry


Best Pork


Best Jelly


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